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  Is it clergy privilege?

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  2. scandals

  just wanted to pose the question to the group and see what the general opinion is vs what the wt may have claimed in other cases.. we all know that they have argued over clergy privilege when elder learn of a crime but keep quiet about it.

  regardless of what one may feel about this, lets assume for a minute that they are correct.. all elders are directed to contact the branch when they learn of a case of child abuse.

  would the conversation between the elder and the branch be considered under the "clergy privilege"?

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  Della Street

  Sparrow,

  I think the admittance of guilt even after an accusation is a confession and protected. A confession is the unburdening of a transgression or wrongdoing. There is no condition about when the information is confessed.This is privileged information.

  A child reporting abuse is approaching the adult authority figures in their lives for assistance and protection. This is not privileged information.

  I don't understand how regular adults can sleep at night knowing that a child has been abused and feel no responsibility to report it to the police no matter their standing as a mandatory reporter. We should all consider ourselves mandatory reporters when it comes to children, or vulnerable others.
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  NWT 1984 vs NWT 2013

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i recently had a discussion with a jw concerning a change in wording of a scripture - in fact this was my all time favourite scripture, namely, micah 6:8.. my view is that the wtbts have deliberately changed the wording and meaning of the said scripture.

  the other person is of the opinion that that is not the case.

  micah 6:8.

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  Della Street

  What was the original word used in that case? The only way to know is to look it up: Here is a link to a list of various versions Bible Gateway
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  LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

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  I watched video 1 and 4 - do they mention anywhere having a line item for legal costs and/or settlements??

  Where is the money going ? Is a good question. Although I'm assuming a lot of it is going for sex abuse cases, that doesn't fully explain all of it. As it stands now, with all the cuts in production, staffing and other items people are right to assume that the needs are not as much now as in the past. They look bad begging all the time.

  They would probably do better if they just came clean said we screwed up how we handled sex abuse and we've had to settle X amount of cases for X amount of dollars - like all the other churches do. People could get their mind around that and would probably pony up the bucks to fix it.
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  Religious Discrimination; now LEGAL

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  newsflash.

  there are businesses that are now discriminating in their hiring practices based on the fact that you are a jw.. sure, you think i'm mad.

  but it's true.. the business circles have become acutely aware of the -not even 1 year old- decision in the industrial court where a jw ratted out a fellow jw and brought disrepute to the bank where they both worked.

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  This is not about religious discrimination - it is about ethics. If people can't follow the ethics of their profession, they are unqualified and should not be employed.
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  Religious Discrimination; now LEGAL

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  newsflash.

  there are businesses that are now discriminating in their hiring practices based on the fact that you are a jw.. sure, you think i'm mad.

  but it's true.. the business circles have become acutely aware of the -not even 1 year old- decision in the industrial court where a jw ratted out a fellow jw and brought disrepute to the bank where they both worked.

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  This is a particularly interesting sentence:

  If the one under suspicion had, in effect, resigned from being a member, not having attended any meetings for some time and not identifying herself as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, they might choose to let the matter rest until such time as she did begin to identify herself again as a Witness.

  Faders are considered resigned but not disassociated or disfellowshipped. Sort of an unofficial third option.
  
  
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  A&E - Cults and Extreme Belief - Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Incognito in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven't seen this posted.. tuesday may 29, 2018 @ 10pm (new york time zone).

  cults and extreme belief - jehovah's witnesses.

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  couple of comments:

  1) Where did the "Witness of Jehovah" cartoon come from? I'd never seen this before.

  2) Going to HQ was a little overdone. What large organization could you go to, and drop in on the CEO or someone from the Board of Directors without an appointment of some kind??

  3) I think Romy is a little too whiny at the begnning - it would have been more powerful to simply state what the doctrine or rules and let people draw their own conclusions.

  4) The Anderson's were excellent!!

  5) The posted JW Child Abuse Policy contains some items that are new, and perhaps even only recently instigated. I wish there had been more discussion on how the policy has developed.
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  A&E - Cults and Extreme Belief - Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Incognito in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven't seen this posted.. tuesday may 29, 2018 @ 10pm (new york time zone).

  cults and extreme belief - jehovah's witnesses.

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  should we have a virtual viewing party?? :-)
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  Study edition august 2018 about news sources

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the study edition of august 2018 mentions the 3 reliable news sources for jehovah's witnesses:.

  "breaking news" at jw.org.

  "news" at jw.org.

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  Della Street

  So is watching CNN, FOX or NPR going to qualify me as apostate now??
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  Canada Branch Financials are Posted (The Bleeding Appears Very Real)

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  posted here:.

  https://docs.zoho.com/sheet/published.do?rid=740aq85115d1a04174c4d867e056351ad6836.

  biggest changes:.

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  Della Street

  I don't think it is as bad as it looks. Line 4330 - Other Liabilities is a big line item where I suspect they are funneling money to other entities based on the amount.
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  Movie Apostacy

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  where can i watch this?

  i saw it was limited release last sept. but it should be out now.

  anyone know?

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  Della Street

  looks like you can rent the content on that website or amazon...